As the Lions offseason gets underway, PennLive’s Johnny McGonigal and Bob Flounders talk about what the James Franklin Penn State program might look like in 2025.

You may present a compelling argument.This year, PSU could do better.

You might also argue that a few Lions problems will keep it from happening.

Additionally, Johnny shares where he had Penn State on his final AP ballot as he and Bob reflect on the 12-team playoff that was concluded.

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